It depends what you mean by convinced redders, the Kman is not convinced that AMD CPUs match or outperform Intel ones at the high end. They do offer the best bang for buck in my price range of below £200, or around £300 for Motherboard & CPU together. My current setup cost me £453 for the CPU, Motherboard & RAM (Brand new in February 2014) which is really good value in my eyes; Intel can't offer the same performance and features at a similar price, you'd have to lose multithreaded performance which I am betting will be more relevant in the future, that was why I got this setup to replace my i5 2500K which was annoying me. There is also my intense dislike of Intel as a company and my voting with my wallet attitude. No better way to influence the world than to spend your money in a manner you think will be constructive. I agree with you though, no need to upgrade as the need for CPU performance is not there yet. Tempting to get the latest and greatest but for us, not doing rendering tasks that require the most performance possible, it is far from a useful upgrade.