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Redders Techy Help Required

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by steelsnail, Jul 10, 2016.

Redders Techy Help Required

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by steelsnail, Jul 10, 2016.

  1. steelsnail

    steelsnail Tagged

    my system spec below. playing bf1 alpha at the moment and although its running ok i feel its time to upgrade gfx card and memory.

    MG pointed me in this direction



    i looked at this memory as well


    any of your techy skills would be appreciated .thx oh and anyone else's techy input would be good to.

    Computer Information:
    Manufacturer: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
    Model: Z87X-OC
    Form Factor: Desktop
    No Touch Input Detected

    Processor Information:
    CPU Vendor: GenuineIntel
    CPU Family: 0x6
    CPU Model: 0x3c
    CPU Stepping: 0x3
    CPU Type: 0x0
    Speed: 3492 Mhz
    8 logical processors
    4 physical processors
    HyperThreading: Supported
    FCMOV: Supported
    SSE2: Supported
    SSE3: Supported
    SSSE3: Supported
    SSE4a: Unsupported
    SSE41: Supported
    SSE42: Supported
    AES: Supported
    AVX: Supported
    CMPXCHG16B: Supported
    LAHF/SAHF: Supported
    PrefetchW: Supported

    Network Information:
    Network Speed:

    Operating System Version:
    Windows 10 (64 bit)
    NTFS: Supported
    Crypto Provider Codes: Supported 311 0x0 0x0 0x0

    Video Card:
    Driver: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780

    DirectX Driver Name: nvd3dum.dll
    Driver Version:
    DirectX Driver Version:
    Driver Date: 2 June 2016
    OpenGL Version: 4.5
    Desktop Color Depth: 32 bits per pixel
    Monitor Refresh Rate: 60 Hz
    DirectX Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780
    VendorID: 0x10de
    DeviceID: 0x1004
    Revision: 0xa1
    Number of Monitors: 1
    Number of Logical Video Cards: 1
    No SLI or Crossfire Detected
    Primary Display Resolution: 1280 x 1024
    Desktop Resolution: 1280 x 1024
    Primary Bus: PCI Express 4x
    Primary VRAM: 3071 MB
    Supported MSAA Modes: 2x 4x 8x

    Sound card:
    Audio device: Speakers (Realtek High Definiti

    RAM: 8080 Mb
  2. SexyHyde

    SexyHyde Tagged

    I wouldn't drop £650 on graphics with
  3. Immy

    Immy Tagged


    Which monitor are you running and what resolution does it support?

    No point spending loads on a graphics card if your resolutions limited by your monitor.
  4. steelsnail

    steelsnail Tagged

    have no idea wot my monitor supports ? so an upgrade is probably needed lol any links to monitors would be good ....but none to scan thx

    yup thats the best my monitor goes to . but it is 10 years+ old
    Last edited: Jul 10, 2016
  5. MG

    MG Staff Member Tagged Donator

  6. steelsnail

    steelsnail Tagged

    cos im a doddery old git of 53 years youngish mg,,,, wheres redders when ya need him ???? 10 years younger and all that :)
  7. SexyHyde

    SexyHyde Tagged

    With regards getting a monitor you need to make a decision around the £250 price range of 1440p @ 60Hz [more definition] or 1080p @ 120/144Hz [smoother gameplay / no tearing]. Or you can get 1440p@140Hz from £400+.
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  8. GoRedwings

    GoRedwings Tagged Donator

    *sniff* *sniff* A spec thread is happening somewhere on the net... I feel my gorky sense tingling.....

    @1280x1024 no matter what gfx card you use whether it is a 1080 or something even faster down the line it would be cpu bottlenecked. So how does res have an impact on cpu bottlenecking the gfx card.

    Well at extremely low resolutions more of the % of the graphical workload is handed to the cpu instead of the gfx card. A card such as a 1080 on any decent card int eh past few years would of been affected by this. I think a change of monitor would allow the gfx card to take more of the workload and you might even find that it is more sufficient for your needs.

    So I would suggest a monitor change more than a gfx card in my opinion. So what kind of monitor are you looking at? I guess someone who is willing to pay 600+ squidlets for a gfx card would have a larger budget for a monitor than the average user.

    There are a lot of options available to you depending on what you require. Some people swear by the high refresh rate monitors as my distinguished gork colleague sexy has mentioned. Some like standard monitors like the one MG has purchased. And some like myself have gone the ultrawide option.

    So I would suggest this. Have a quick look around the net and so and tell us what kind of size you would like, what kind of res and any other fancy bells and whistles you deem necessary to get the most out of your gaming setup. Do you want a high refresh rate. Or are you just a plain vanilla lover type of person or do you fancy a change and getting something like an Ultrawide monitor.

    Of course if you feel a gfx card change is still par for the course and knowing you that means Nvidia then teh curent shiniest and fastest would be the 1080. There a lot of vendors are now offering a whole bunch of cards. And they all perform more or less the same with one or two exceptions. they will all cost you a bit of money as well.

    I really like the offerings like Gigabyte, Msi, Asus, Evga but there is one current dark house vendor I am keeping my eye on and that the Gainward 'GLH' 1080. Why this card above all others. Well I will be totally honest it an ugly as **** looking gfx card with the most hideous colour scheme I have seen on a gfx card to date. So why this card if all the negatives. Well it runs on avg between 60-65c at ambient room temperatures. What this means is becuase it runs cooler than almost every other 1080 (besides watercooled 1080's) a)it will boost higher (more performance) and b) at 60-65c the fans won;t be spinning as fast as others making it a less noisy option.

    As for memory it cheap as it chips these days but tbh I would leave that to very last and only do so after doing the primary ones first and you just bored and want to burn cash.
    steelsnail and SexyHyde like this.
  9. steelsnail

    steelsnail Tagged

    i really am not techy at all redders but u know that big time lol .dont want to go to big monitor about 24 ish would be good and a good one for gaming . perhaps u guys could post some links as i dont have a scooby doo?
    the gfx card im running is the one i bought from u redders(i think) and yes i am a Nvidia fan boi
    so if i bought a monitor would it then be a good idea to get a new gfx card as well or not bother ?



    Last edited: Jul 11, 2016
  10. GoRedwings

    GoRedwings Tagged Donator

    Hi snaily I can;t even remember what gfx card you bought off me. Well first off it looks like your setup is more screaming for a monitor upgrade more than anything else. Then you can try and just be honest whether you find it running okay or you find it to be running slow. If it okay then hold off a littel longer if not for the next gen cards but for the prices to lower. If you find in your own opinion that across of the majority of games you play that you feel it too slow then by all means upgrade.

    So the first two monitors look fine it seems you like the 24-27 inch size and both with high refresh rates. so it seems you would like that feature more. The last one is a 4k monitor. Now there are one or two things you should be aware of if you buy that monitor. Frist and foremost as it is a 4k monitor. it means you will definetely have to upgrade your gfx card. And even then you might find that for example a single 1080 might not cut it running the very latest games with all the details set to max. As good as the 1080 is, it not quite there with 4k. It was years until gfx cards at least single card solutions were able to run at 2560x1600 let alone 4k which is 3820x2160 if I remember correctly.

    The second important points is that it the freesync version which means this is an exclusive amd gfx card technology exclusive. SO if I were you I would look for the G-sync version which is Nvidia.

    Doesn't matter if you are not tech savvy by posting links above you give yourself a point to start from and we can see what kind of monitors you like to help you start off.

    24-27 inch 144hz not bothered by ips or tn panels. Which makes life a lot simpler. When you start speccing certain technologies or features desired you start narrowing the options down rapidly. Which is a good thing and bad thing. good that we can recommend something close to your criteria but bad in that it limits what we can recommend.

    When you do get your monitor it is important to test the games you play not the games gfx card reviewers play. If you don;t play gta 5, witcher 3 or crysis 3. If you play only stuff like league of legends and world of warcraft and it is fine then it really is. Just because your card doesn;t play the latest games at max frames and details doesn;t mean it a bad card if you won;lt ever play those type of games and it really irritates me so I never ever watch gfx card reviews.
  11. steelsnail

    steelsnail Tagged

    bought the g-sync one redders . thanks for input, mighty gorkster!